Just Cause Demo [Archive] - NTSC-uk.com Forums

Sane

24-08-2006, 07:41 PM

Didn't see a thread ont his yet. The demo is up on the marketplace and it's pretty good! I was afraid the framerate in this game would be bad, seeing how the area is so large and all. Luckily this is not the case, the framerate is really impressive. The graphics are nice, nothing amazing but nice looking with some optional motion blur.

The fighting takes a little getting used, hand to hand just doesn't work really, but when you get guns it seems too easy. You have to take a lot of damage to actually die (you can even jump off huge structures and just lose a tiny sliver of health). Maybe this is just the demo though and they'll make the final game harder.

You get a lot of freedom in the demo, initially you have to take down some guy, if you don't he'll escape and the demo ends. But after you kill him you get a new oblective which is not timebased and you can wander off and mess about. The demo area is restricted nautarlly but it's big nontheless.

Other impressions, the vehicle driving is pretty bad, I kept breaking out making the vehicle completely uncontrollable. A nice touch is that you can press Y when driving to go into stunt position and stand on the vehicle. This lets you open you parachute again or jump to another vehicle. Also the game suffers from indestructible steel trees (a tiny tree will stop your car dead) and some unpolishedness like when you pull up in dirt with a car the dirt will spray right through etc.

All in all it's looking better than I was expecting and if they can tidy the game up a bit more I might consider buying it.

Dezm0nd

24-08-2006, 08:41 PM

Not my cup of tea, it's out after Dead Rising and it's no way near as good as i hoped, yet anothet sandbox game done badly.

Thanks for the demo though, Eidos!

anephric

24-08-2006, 08:46 PM

Graphically, it's Xbox 1.5 portastic!

The combat is weaker than I hoped - when ppl were comparing the game to Mercenaries etc I thought the combat might've been as solid as said title or Max Payne-ish but it's a floppy GTA lock-on clone.

Stilll, seems fun to me. Glad I preordered when it was cheapish.

dvdmike

24-08-2006, 08:52 PM

it's a floppy GTA lock-on clone.there is no need to lock on click the right stick and it goes to an over the sholder resi 4 view

Simmy

24-08-2006, 08:57 PM

it's Xbox 1.5

I'd really hoped we'd lost that term for good :zzz:

Still not got home to try this out, never has there been such a mixed bag of impressions, from uber shite to uber tastic !

anephric

24-08-2006, 08:59 PM

Hey, if it wasn't so Xbox 1.5 tastic and quite obviously ported over in a hurry, I wouldn't have used it.

Wait 'til you play it and see the models (the close-up of the soldier getting in the jeep). They stink up the joint. With their med-res textures and low polyness they stink up the joint in a very 1.5 manner. 1.5. 1.5.

anephric

24-08-2006, 09:00 PM

there is no need to lock on click the right stick and it goes to an over the sholder resi 4 view
Ah, I was too busy trying to LOCK ON and cursing the crappy LOCK ON to notice.

fishbowlhead

24-08-2006, 09:04 PM

Lazy developer.

just buy the xbox version and save yourself £25. If you really have to play crap like this that it.

EvilBoris

24-08-2006, 09:12 PM

dvdmike

24-08-2006, 09:14 PM

EvilBoris after the first guy is dead you can piss about until the sun goes down :)

wush

24-08-2006, 09:14 PM

The graphics are pretty good, I think. Great scale when you're in the air and the water can look fantastic. A lot of popping from the trees and rather dodgy human models though.

One thing I noticed was that half the time you can't even see the enemies you're fighting, it auto locks on to some dark area beside a bush... fair enough, there must be an enemy there. Not very satisfying.

ezee ryder

24-08-2006, 09:24 PM

Good but not great. Graphics as most of you have said are decent for an Xbox 360 game, nothing spectacular. The scale of the game must be commended as when you parachuting down the view is lovely, just tries to do too many things and to be fair to it does a decnt job on them, just not a great job. With quite a few top games coming out on the 360 in September this won't be an essential purchase.

EvilBoris

24-08-2006, 09:26 PM

EvilBoris after the first guy is dead you can piss about until the sun goes down :)

Quality!

I'll give that a go later , cheers

FreelancePolice

24-08-2006, 10:27 PM

this game is james bond, explosions thousands of bad guys which you dismiss like that.

Brats

24-08-2006, 10:29 PM

LMAO!

I was melting aong in a jeep with the cops behind me, when I heard a bang and one of the cop cars overtook me....sliding along on his roof!

I had another moment where I launched off a cliff face in a jeep, jettisoned the parachute and watched the jeep sail below to hit a cop in the gob.

Anyone who worries about the technical aspects of this game over stuff like that needs to re-examine why they play games. I'm not saying it's the best game ever, but the island looks like hilarious fun and I love the whole dodgy Che Guerava stylings.

Friction

24-08-2006, 10:34 PM

I'm with Brats on this one.

Yes it's not the best game in the world, but the potentially for comedy is very high indeed and therefore it's excellent!

Ripping it along on the roof of a car, leaping to another (ala Pursuit Force) is great, hanging on the back of a helicopter, stealing boats, its just so much fun.

Granted I won't pay full price for it, but I could think of worse ways to spend £50 that's for sure!

Flabio

24-08-2006, 11:29 PM

Liked the demo a lot, might pick it out of the second hand bins once I'm done with Dead Rising.

Assuming there's a gap, what with FF12 being out soon.

billy_dimashq

24-08-2006, 11:45 PM

maybe he buys his games at the RRP?

i played the demo and it was kinda fun landing on top of the car but that was about it. Pressing Y to hop on top of the car and jumping onto others was like Frogger but with two legs.

graphics are sweet as heck though, just not my cup of tea, that's all.

EvilBoris

24-08-2006, 11:45 PM

HOLY CRAP.

Have you guys pressed select an seen the size of the full map?

AI CHIHUAHUA

Akira

25-08-2006, 12:03 AM

I finally bashed my way through the demo, it was alright.

I'd of rather just pissed around jumping off cliffs than doing a mission though.
I switched straight to test drive then realised how non next gen just cause looks.LMFAO! your are kidding right? considering that just cause is an xbox port up,test drive looks like crap compared to this.

Go from the colorful and expansive locals of just cause to the drab and plain boring look of test drive.Your post does not make sense.

EvilBoris

25-08-2006, 12:07 AM

Test Drive looks alot clearer, it may be drab and just cause has the real tropical feel, but for pure visual shine it beats JC hands down.

I think its the higher res textures that test drives as it was built for next gen consoles. It looks MUCH clearer than Just cause does in HD.

Just Cause is bloody impressive, it is just missing that last drop of next gen gloss that other titles have.

That is all, I'll be buying Just Cause, it was just an observation I've made

Akira

25-08-2006, 12:10 AM

hmmm,it's your opinion i guess.But i personally hate the look of test drive.It's like all the color has been sucked out of it,and it think it's one of the least impressive looking 360 games i've played.

EvilBoris

25-08-2006, 12:13 AM

I don't like Test drive, you are right, it is like someone has turned the colour on the TV right down.

The difference in clarity between JC and TD is quite marked on an HDTV, it may just be to do all the bloom effects motion blur and pixally shadows in JC.

Akira

25-08-2006, 12:20 AM

Yea the bloom is used quite heavily in just cause.But it still looks really nice in HD.

Anyway,this is about just cause and not test drive,so i won't derail this thread anymore,sorry :)

Gameplay wise,im definitely not sure on it.I mean why can't i dive while shooting? this game is begging for it.Why can't i crouch? the shooting,just becomes a case of moving left and right.Urgh such a waste!

billy_dimashq

25-08-2006, 12:25 AM

i think they both look a bit tat in that they're just shiny 360 games. seems all the devs are finding out the different special effects at the same time :p

dev1 down south: OMG BLOOM! LOOK!
dev2 up north: OCH BLOOM! LOOK!

why can't i dive while shooting? this game is begging for it.Why can't i crouch? the shooting,just becomes a case of moving left and right.Urgh such a waste!

there's shooting???

Akira

25-08-2006, 12:40 AM

there's shooting???Yea,and it's pretty janky.When you move him around while shooting i swear he looks like one of the puppet guys out of team america,it's uncanny.

Which reminds me,why the hell is there no sprint button? :???:

IanE

25-08-2006, 12:41 AM

D-pad to select weapons!

Zanza

25-08-2006, 01:02 AM

This game is a ton of fun, so many comedy moments to be had.The only aspects I don't like is that the vehicle collisions and handling could be a bit nicer looking/realistic, but it doesn't really detract from the fun.

Spent the last hour pissing about in a helicopter, free falling onto other enemy helicopters and attempting to jump from helicopters to boats. Great fun, nothing better than surfing on top of your car and going over a cliff :P

Skull Commander

25-08-2006, 01:07 AM

I'v been enjoying this demo. Seems like mindless fun. Almost choked on my tea when I found out I could hold onto the helicopter. The speadboats are ace fun too, especially the ones with weapons!

I think the graphics look quite nice on this game. There is a bit of glitching, but the overall effect is very nice. I also downloaded the test drive demo, and in my opinion that is far more 'xbox 1.5' graphics than just cause.

NeoDragoN

25-08-2006, 03:34 AM

I think its very slick, nothing looks cooler than going from your parachute to freefall!

The game itself is total GTA with a bit of pursuit Force thrown in! Not something i would buy and play through but cool little demo!

EvilBoris

25-08-2006, 10:38 AM

I wonder how much the full game will differ, they removed some speech and some animation from the demo.

Also, where was my damn grappling hook?

Simmy

25-08-2006, 11:08 AM

This does sound like a great laugh, and as with GTA it's going to be more about the exploration than the missions to me. Does it look like there will be good variety to the island ? or is it rinse repeat on the textures ? Guess there will have to be allot of duplication with the size of the overall map.

Starting to get the shakes from 360 withdraw now. Must get new house sorted stat ! Anyone got a gun I can use on a slow solicitor ;)

Yoshimax

25-08-2006, 01:51 PM

I laughed when I looked at the map and saw the size of the area you have in the demo - The full game is going to be scary big.

robrymond

25-08-2006, 01:53 PM

The map is HUGE. My only worry as Simmy said is that alot of it will be 'the same'. I did find a small town in the demo but it wasn't that impressive and pretty bland. I can't see there being big cities or anything on the full map.

But exploring wise, it looks like it'll offer alot. Did anyone else find the cable car up the top of the mountain? Sadly it wasn't moving, so I just drove off the edge and dropped thousands of feet below sitting in my car. Things like that which are amusing.

Yoshimax

25-08-2006, 01:55 PM

The big rope bridge between the mountains was cool - managed to plunge my helicopter right into that :D

robrymond

25-08-2006, 01:59 PM

The big rope bridge between the mountains was cool - managed to plunge my helicopter right into that :D

I drove over that, quite surprised it didn't snap in half :p

Brats

25-08-2006, 02:01 PM

Last night I had loads of militia chasing after me in the jeep. Rather than go over the bridge and trigger the end of the demo, I veered right and ploughed off a massive cliff. I jumped out, ejected the parachute then turned 180 degrees to see all the militia follow my empty jeep off the cliff to a MAHOSIVE explosion at the bottom of the valley. Lol!

This game is a B-Movie action film writ large.

Yoshimax

25-08-2006, 02:02 PM

See - Brats has made me want to play through it again just to see that :D

DavidFallows

25-08-2006, 02:07 PM

Haha! That does sound fun.

anephric

25-08-2006, 06:47 PM

I thought there were full cities in the game proper? There're certainly screenies of them...

AlonzoUK

25-08-2006, 09:26 PM

Thank god for xbox live demos. Played the demo through and found it a little dull tbh. Graphically it's okay but the AI is lacking - had flashbacks of Boiling Point (although it is much better than that).

Think I'll give this a miss when it comes out.

tom-nook

25-08-2006, 09:36 PM

I thought there were full cities in the game proper? There're certainly screenies of them...
Yeah there is at least 1 city in the game. iirc the preview I read said you can't enter any of the buildings though:(

dvdmike

25-08-2006, 09:41 PM

you can't enter any of the buildings though:(Damn all i wanted to do in the demo was go in a windmill

Rossco

26-08-2006, 12:26 AM

Hmm bit iffy this one.

Played it for about 20 minutes or so. The shooting isnt as bad as I thought, but still not great and parachuting about is quite classy.

I got the third person to kill which was up near a helicopter or something, I really didnt get it, every time I went up, I couldnt see the person, it looked like on the map that they were flying away or something but it just kept coming up saying they excaped no matter what I done. Sometimes just 10 or 15 seconds after it reloaded from the save point it would cut out saying they escaped. Surely was a bug, otherwise the thing just never made sense at all as it wasnt obvious in the slightest what was going on.

I will give it another shot though to see. The potential for fun is there but I wont be paying any more than £30 for it.

Yoshimax

26-08-2006, 12:29 AM

Rossco - 3rd or 4th shot it kinda clicks and you'll know what to do - I played it again tonight and was shocked by my own efficiency :D

I'm right into this - just the whole tropical island thing is enough for me - Disregard some comments - this is a startup unit and for a first title I'm well impressed - number 2 / the sequel should be well impressive !!!

chopemon

26-08-2006, 10:39 AM

Rossco - 3rd or 4th shot it kinda clicks and you'll know what to do - I played it again tonight and was shocked by my own efficiency :Dit didn't feel at all intuitive when i first played but now it feels really smooth

the controls take a little while to get used to but once you get it you feel like t3h awesomez

vanpeebles

26-08-2006, 11:02 AM

Hmm bit iffy this one.

I got the third person to kill which was up near a helicopter or something, I really didnt get it, every time I went up, I couldnt see the person, it looked like on the map that they were flying away or something but it just kept coming up saying they excaped no matter what I done. Sometimes just 10 or 15 seconds after it reloaded from the save point it would cut out saying they escaped. Surely was a bug, otherwise the thing just never made sense at all as it wasnt obvious in the slightest what was going on.

on that bit i jumped straight into the helicopter and took off. you have to chase his helicopter and missile it.

Yoshimax

26-08-2006, 03:45 PM

On my latest run through I managed to jump from my vehicle, bolt up the stairs grabbing the rocket launcher on the way and blew the ****er clean out the sky JUST as his helicopter was pulling away.

It was sweet :D

Family Fry

26-08-2006, 04:48 PM

Totaly agree with the controls clicking into place, at first they seem a bit odd but you spot things more when you play and it all falls into place nicely.
Got my wanted level upto 5 ended up with 3 helicpoters in the sky gunning for me in my car, flipped onto the hood of the car whilst surfing my car i parachuted upto it then proceeded to hop between the 3 helicopters very close together, always looks so cool when you do it too.
Also had an extreme skydiving moment took a helicopter as high as i could go without exiting the map jumped into a freefall through the air, little icon popped up a few seconds later Press A to jump to vechile, magic.
Cant understand all the hate, just cause i like it so much :)
Remember also guys Hitman and Tomb Raider were region free both EIDOS published, so what are the chances of a @ VG+ purchase http://www.videogamesplus.ca/product_info.php?products_id=11440&osCsid=9e10142d0491526259668cbf988222bb
out 19th sept £28, tempting.
EDIT Was the asian versions of those games that were region free, my bad.

Akira

26-08-2006, 05:19 PM

spagmasterswift

26-08-2006, 05:33 PM

Not sure about this one yet - found the helicopter bit very annoying and I love helicopters :(

Yoshimax

26-08-2006, 05:40 PM

Wha!! there's a rocket launcher?
Halfway up the stairs at the point where you turn 90 degress it's on the ground - press A to pick it up :D Shoot some wee guys and see how far they fly :D

Akira

26-08-2006, 05:44 PM

How the hell did i miss that? cheers for the info bro,muchos fun to be had now.I just wish the pyhsic's were a little more crazy like saints row.

NiceButDim

26-08-2006, 09:12 PM

Not very satisfying.

This sums up the whole demo for me, it just didn't feel satisfying at all.

glazza

27-08-2006, 12:03 PM

This sums up the whole demo for me, it just didn't feel satisfying at all.

Totally disagree as i have found this to be a lot of fun and thats the most importnat thing in a game right?.

Also think it looks lush everywhere you go an i love the mix of Driving/Flying/shooting and the insane local law enforcments plus it all flows realy well but most of all i love the free falling out of the sky..wheeeeeeeeeeeee!!

EvilBoris

27-08-2006, 12:07 PM

i don't see how people cannot find driving off a cliff and parachuting down onto a boat fun.

It makes me wonder if more people would of liked it had they included the grappling hook in the demo.

I really can't wait to piss around in the full game.

NiceButDim

27-08-2006, 12:28 PM

Totally disagree as i have found this to be a lot of fun and thats the most importnat thing in a game right?

Absolutely, but I didn't find it fun because I didn't find it satisfying. It didn't feel as if I was having much involvement in the whole thing, autoaim was a bit too good and jumping ontop of and across cars felt a bit too easy.

I do agree it looks lovely though, a little bit like FarCry.

Yoshimax

27-08-2006, 06:31 PM

NBD you're not the first to cite this about the car jumping - I'm intrigued as to how else people would have expected these mechanics to be executed ?

"it's a good game but getting from car A to B is nigh on impossible with that camera"

etc

etc.

Family Fry

27-08-2006, 07:09 PM

I fail to see if people like GTA how they could not like this, im not a GTA fan but ive enjoyed this demo and cant wait for the full release.
It should sell buckets loads but it wont cause it aint Gangster/Ghetto/Maifa enough which is a shame.
If they put a a bit of advertising into this game on TV and Cinema showing the cool features im sure people would be interested, Ive heard a few people say they had not even heard about this game til the 360 live demo and now they are hooked by it.
From the new vids ive seen there looks to be some nice wee one liners in it also, like the woman in suspenders kicking the naked guy, Rico says "There no suck thing as safe sex any more."
It seems this game is will be a 50/50 split though, some people will love it some people will hate it. Because i love it so much i cant see why people would hate it but people do though and for some bizarre reasons too!
VIVA LA REVOLUCION.

Fat_Bob

27-08-2006, 07:10 PM

Dezm0nd

27-08-2006, 07:25 PM

Giving this a second go and finding quite good fun now, it's nothing i'd pay £40 for to be honest but it's better than I first thought :)

Family Fry

27-08-2006, 07:27 PM

good point, I have to say i love the ease in which you can pull of stunts. It adds to the whole action hero feel and gives you a real rush. When you figure in helicopters and boats it just get better and better.

question is do i go for this, saints row or test drive after already pre-ordering dead rising.

I feel your pain bob, i feel your pain.
Too many cool games coming out at least Just Cause aint out til 22nd sept, almost end of the month and pay day again.
All other EIDOS games in Asia have been region free so it may be worth while holding out, it may be a cheap import purchase when it comes out.

dvdmike

27-08-2006, 07:36 PM

Just put this on for 30 mins, I found out that if you attack the guys for long enough choppers turn up I managed to jump between 4 choppers one after another it was like a helicopter ladder lol

NiceButDim

27-08-2006, 11:37 PM

NBD you're not the first to cite this about the car jumping - I'm intrigued as to how else people would have expected these mechanics to be executed ?

Maybe - but that doesn't change the fact that I find it almost 'on rails' and not particularly satisfying at all.

EvilBoris

28-08-2006, 01:39 PM

Maybe - but that doesn't change the fact that I find it almost 'on rails' and not particularly satisfying at all.

But it is part of the whole immediate fun that the game offers, If you had to constantly had to work out mhow to land in the correctplace,you wouldn't be able to get yourself into all those hilarious situations all the time.

Imagine if all the vehicles in grand theft auto handled like GTR, it would totally sap any fun out of the game.

NiceButDim

28-08-2006, 02:32 PM

Yah yah, there's clearly some balance to be had, and for me the game doesn't find the balance. I guess I just didn't find any of the situations particularly hilarious.

importaku

28-08-2006, 04:21 PM

I played the demo yesterday & crisps house & i must have been playing a totally different version to you all as i thought the graphics were pretty excellent, sure theres a bit of clipping & popup but those enviroments looked amazing. Try viewing it in HD on a 90" screen to fully appreciate it ;)

After killing the first guy i used my time to explore & look at the scenery, the lighting effects are ace & i enjoyed just looking around at the trees & stuff, i decided to scale the hill to get a better view of my surroundings & was impressed with just how far you can see into the distance. The sound is excellent too, very jungle realistic with all the insects & stuff.

It's one of those games where i could be quite happy arsing around in just enjoying doing silly things like skydiving off a tiny cliff but not opening your parachute (pure comedy btw)

hoolak

28-08-2006, 04:29 PM

The graphics are pretty impressive. The foliage is better than Oblivion in my opinion.
I agree the combat is not too deep, but I still found this fun with all its freefalling and stuff. I look forward to just messing about on the rest of the massive map when it is released. Maybe it's a marmite game. Rico seems to mince rather than run tho :)

Mardigan8

30-08-2006, 11:25 AM

Meh, downloaded demo last night and have to say am not overly impressed with it. Some nice graphical touches with lush environments and some good effects but overall it just felt a bit plain... the on foot action was really boring with a simply side-step and shoot technique being the only order of the day, surely there should be more mechanics to the action than this with using cover and diving at least an option.

Vehicle stuff was quite good, with the stunt stuff but began to wear on me after only 15 minutes.

Not bad, but nowhere near what I would expect for a game of this type on next gen. Maybe final version will deliver more, the demo does not!!

Yoshimax

30-08-2006, 12:12 PM

Not bad, but nowhere near what I would expect for a game of this type on next gen. Maybe final version will deliver more, the demo does not!!
It's an xbox1/ps2 game it's not designed for 360 from the ground up. For a new studio trying (i guess) to showcase their technology I think it's pretty decent. I can't wait to see what they do next freed from the shackles of current gen.

prinnysquad

30-08-2006, 07:47 PM

Bang on, Yoshi. I've been following this game for ages, and fully expected to get the ps2 release. Now the opportunity has presented itself to play a spruced-up version, I'm well pleased. Avalanche clearly aren't a massive development house, but have done a smashing job at creating (judging by the demo) a neat title with colourful environments and a sense of humour. It's a pointless exercise to berate them for not creating a Triple A next gen title. Like IO have done with Blood Money, they've added spit and polish to a title they've had in development for the ps2 and other formats for ages.

robrymond

05-09-2006, 12:29 PM

According to the press release today, the game world is 250,000 acres and consists of sandy beaches, cityscapes and forests.

One of the biggest game worlds ever apparently. And judging by that map, it will be!

eastyy

05-09-2006, 12:54 PM

Having a big game world is nice but there wouldnt be much point if you couldnt do much in it (like with a flight simulator)

I would rather have a smaller world but alot more stuff to do

erhgiez

05-09-2006, 12:57 PM

Just played the demo and I just cant get into these kind of games, it seemed way too easy with an almost infinite life bar which could survive 4 direct grenades and about 10 mins of heavy gun fire

Crisp_Rapper

05-09-2006, 01:40 PM

Just played the demo and I just cant get into these kind of games, it seemed way too easy with an almost infinite life bar which could survive 4 direct grenades and about 10 mins of heavy gun fire
yeah, that life bar is crazy long. quickest way i found of shortening it was finding a relatively steep hill and diving off it head first, but even that takes ages.

the 3rd person free roaming games have never grabbed me, alothough this one has some cool little features i have no desire to load it up again.

marcus

05-09-2006, 01:42 PM

Ive never seen a character run the way that guy does.

Dezm0nd

05-09-2006, 01:43 PM

Prince of Mince :lol:

NekoFever

06-09-2006, 09:00 PM

I just downloaded it and I'm well impressed. I remember reading about it in Edge a few months back and thinking it was a pie in the sky concept, but they've done a great job. If the reviews are good I'll probably buy it. The only concern for me is how much freedom they give you, meaning that I hope the full game isn't a case of "do this...now do this...now quickly blow this up" like the demo.

Excellent ending 8)