Street Fighter II Hyper Fighting Xbox Live

[Crimson Day]

Price 800 Points

For something that has taken them so long i think they could have added more features like a tournement mod online would have been nice. but i cant complain at the end of the day its street fighter:happy:

[El Leone]

Seeing as the Dpad isn't that great, should I keep at it or just use the analog stick?

[spagmasterswift]

Can somebody explain how this works then on-line?

[Crimson Day]

:blink: just been trying to use the quick match system and everytime i try and fight it says challenge rejected ive got a feeling it becaise its defult set as voice chat on which i dont always use. so i dont think it will let me in the games, if thats true thats just shit i cant use voice late at night

[Crimson Day]

Can somebody explain how this works then on-line?
just traditional matchs 1v1 and a quarter match where 4 people can be in a room 2 fighting to waiting winner stays on i belive

[Flabio]

if thats true thats just shit i cant use voice late at night
Plug your headset in, turn its volume down and flick it's switch to mute. Then don't wear it. You'll count as being in chat even though you can't hear anything and noone can hear you.

I do that to mute out the tards on DOA4...

[spagmasterswift]

Can you go in and spectate on a match while waiting?

[Crimson Day]

Plug your headset in, turn its volume down and flick it's switch to mute. Then don't wear it. You'll count as being in chat even though you can't hear anything and noone can hear you.

I do that to mute out the tards on DOA4...
i would but i use a xbox 1 headset:pft:

[jimmbob]

Has it still got the music when it starts up?
Dumdumdum dum dum...etc

[Simmy]

Only 4 in a quater match ? Thought it was supposed to replicate a real arcade enviroment with quite a few waiting for a match :dry: It's winner stays on I presume.

Is the d-pad useless then - if it is I hope they get a small fighting pad out soon !

[Pezley]

im actually finding the dpad fine. altho, its my newer pad, the one ive had sinch launch is far less responsive.

[Yoraths mullet]

Not managed a single ranked match yet as it always says the other bloke is timedout, and peolpe keep rejecting my challenge on the player matches. Wankers.

[NekoFever]

Not complaining or anything, but why on Earth is SFII nearly 50MB? Isn't that the limit on the size of Live Arcade games, and if so how is something more graphically complicated like Alien Hominid going to fit?

Still a classic game, though. Even if Super Street Fighter II X would have been better and the D-pad is rubbish.

[Ajay1986]

Ive not had any probs with the controller yet im finding it just the same as any other pd ive played SF one, with the exception that i probably wont get SF thumb with the 360 pad.

[Myth]

I'm finding the game fine, other than the fact I suck big time.

[Flabio]

how is something more graphically complicated like Alien Hominid going to fit?
They're being very clever actually. They're storing their graphics as vectors rather than bitmaps, and creating the bitmaps on load. Works quite well with their art style.

[Kotatsu Neko]

Anyone else finding this hard as nails? I'm sure it's much harder than it used to be on the SNES, MD etc. Aside from the fact I'm getting my ass kicked repeadedly by the CPU another clue that it's insanely hard is the way the CPU characters wiggle out of a daze in about 1/10 of a second.

Once I get the SP finished the game achievement I think I'll stick to playing this online!

[J0e Musashi]

another clue that it's insanely hard is the way the CPU characters wiggle out of a daze in about 1/10 of a second.

It's always been like that. It was only 1993, people seem to have forgotten lots since then.

[Kotatsu Neko]

It's always been like that. It was only 1993, people seem to have forgotten lots since then.I don't think so, I really don't. I can power through 3rd Strike or Zero 3 barely losing a round.

This is just crazy hard. Reminds me of the SNES version on maximum difficulty.

[DavidFallows]

Has it still got the music when it starts up?
Dumdumdum dum dum...etc

Yes.

The black guy still gets decked too. :D

[NaveT]

The Arcade mode is pretty hard. I have played SFII over the years on various formats and cant remember the computer being that quick.

Maybe i am getting old :(

[marcus]

whats the aspect ratio like, bordered 4:3?

[NaveT]

4:3 bordered.

It isnt as bad as I thought, and you can stretch it if you want.

[J0e Musashi]

I don't think so, I really don't. I can power through 3rd Strike or Zero 3 barely losing a round.

This is just crazy hard. Reminds me of the SNES version on maximum difficulty.

I'm going to go and set up the PCB just to make sure, but I'm certain of it. 3rd strike and Zero 3 are easy due to supers and air-blocking and parrys and all of that other new shite. This is SF2, it is difficult.

[Simmy]

This is just crazy hard. Reminds me of the SNES version on maximum difficulty.

:dry: Game has to be played on level 7, there is no other way to play it ! We used to clear that on snes with no round loses and over 1,000,000 points without breaking a sweat, me thinks it will sadly be different now however :zzz:

[DavidFallows]

Nothing wrong with the game itself... Only the colours look slightly washed out. It could be doing with a gamma correction tool.

I'm also not a fan of the upscaled resolutions. They always make old games look like shit. Although I always knew it never was going to be old-school 320x240 anyway.

[The Game]

You can change it to whatever size you like in the options, with no loss of speed. Not been online yet, could be a different story.


whats the aspect ratio like, bordered 4:3?

[Kotatsu Neko]

whats the aspect ratio like, bordered 4:3?You can scale it to whatever you like. You can also turn off the scrolling background, which is just as well as it's very annoying.

[Jebus]

Seemed harder to me as well, but I think I was just generally better at games back then anyway.

Anyway, it's fairly unspectacular, it's SFII...that's it. I downloaded the demo because I didn't think I'd buy it, I probably won't after all. It's just like it used to be only on a 360. Played it to death back then, not sure I fancy playing it to death again.

The 360 pad (though near perfect) isn't right for this game at all. The CPU is irritating as well.

Oh also, an annoyance in the demo, I think this is the first marketplace demo that doesn't let you see the possible achievements! It just tells you that function is unavailable. I think in terms of gameplay this is the shortest demo I've ever got from the marketplace. I guess they thought "well people are desperate for this ancient game they'll buy it outright anyway"...

[spagmasterswift]

I guess they thought "well people are desperate for this ancient game they'll buy it outright anyway"...

ANd how right they were, I'd not even thought about the demo - gonna check that first ;)

[Nu-Eclipse]

Yes.

The black guy still gets decked too. :D

Does this XBOX 36O version have the legendary FBI "Winners don't use drugs" screen like the coin-op?

TRIVIA: Apparently, the white guy who punches the black guy in the intro is none other than Mike, one of the combatants in SFI.

Well, that's what Wikipedia says, ... :D

[J0e Musashi]

Does this XBOX 36O version have the legendary FBI "Winners don't use drugs" screen like the coin-op?

That's only found on the USA version of the game.

[PeteJ]

What are the achivements?

[Simmy]

http://live.xbox.com/en-GB/profile/Achievements/ViewAchievementDetails.aspx?compareTo=SilverSurfer&tid=%09%5d%3bhe)j%3c%0c%05

Oh and anyone downloading anything but the paid for version, should be shot :ph34r:

[Simmy]

How are folks finding the lag ? Was the biggest concern pre release, and no one has commented on it yet. Also is the online speed the same as the SP speed now ? and can you play online at the different speed options ? Is the screen stretchable online ?

[Jusatsushi]

Oh and anyone downloading anything but the paid for version, should be shot :ph34r:Eh? Why?

[Crimson Day]

How are folks finding the lag ? Was the biggest concern pre release, and no one has commented on it yet. Also is the online speed the same as the SP speed now ? and can you play online at the different speed options ? Is the screen stretchable online ?
ive played 4 matchs online 2 were perfect 1 was ok and the last was unbarably laggy more testing is needed, found 4 lost 4 ;)

[wush]

ach, gash!

[Shakey_Jake33]

Christ them fireballs are harder than I remember them being. Gotta be the D-Pad, right?

[Yoraths mullet]

Not had any lag at all so far, just won a few matches online, but I must admit I was been a bit cheap with Mr Honda.

[Kotatsu Neko]

Eh? Why?Probably because we've all played SF2 for years and don't exactly need a demo to know if we'll like it or not.

[spagmasterswift]

I've played the Arcade version and the Snes version and that's it - will download the demo to see if I'm feeling the 360 version first methinks ;)

Actually, thats a load of balls :)

[peeveen]

Probably because we've all played SF2 for years and don't exactly need a demo to know if we'll like it or not.

Does it matter? If it's like any of the other XBLA games, you can download the 48meg demo for free, then, if you like it, buy the tiny 1K file that turns it into the full game.

[Kubrick]

Tried it earlier. 9 times out of 10 I got a timeout when attempting a quick match... Is the other player refusing to play me?

Eventually got a few fights but they were laggy as **** against US opponents and one of them just spammed the hundred hand slap with E.Honda :dry: The only UK player I played disconnected just when I was about to beat him! :rolleyes: Lag seemed OK that time though.

[Jusatsushi]

Probably because we've all played SF2 for years and don't exactly need a demo to know if we'll like it or not.Yeah, that's fair enough, but I still feel I need to play the demo to see that they haven't buggered it up the arse whilst converting it. Also I'm suprised this game lags, as it's hardly shifting much. Hell I'd expect dial-up to handle it tbh!

[yosai]

Had a couple of goes earlier. Seems to be the same as the PCB. Shame both my pads are shite.

The red fireball glitch is present too. :)

[DavidFallows]

The red fireball glitch is present too. :)

Aye... I loved that. :D

Me and my mates used to come up with theories on how to 'perform' it... we were just talking complete bollocks though.

[Psyduck]

I'm having very little luck playing on live - tried maybe 20 games, and only managed to play 3. Little lag while playing, but that's no consolation if it takes this long to actually play the damn thing.

[Yoraths mullet]

Just had two droppers in a row, I'm shit enough as it is without having my few victories stolen from me.

[Daragon]

Well, the trial version of this is probably enough for me. Really didn't like this as much as I thought I would - difficulty seems OTT as mentioned here a few times - even on 0 stars this seems excessive (the computer actually makes an effort to kill you as opposed to being sat in the corner while it waits for you to wail on it)

Also, what is up with that border? The entire game is probably just as "meh"

[DavidFallows]

the computer actually makes an effort to kill you as opposed to being sat in the corner while it waits for you to wail on it

It has a training mode for that mate.

[Yoshimax]

Right given the dickheads avoiding playing people then can you setup private games for up to 4 as mentioned and just invite friends in ? Also, can you spectate while waiting your shot ?

[yosai]

You can spectate if you were in the room when the match started. If you join after it starts you only get the players names to look at.

[Daragon]

It has a training mode for that mate.

Not in the trial version it don't :(

I think the borders are still my biggest gripe however, most arcade games can manage to display in widescreen so why can't this?

[Jebus]

Probably because we've all played SF2 for years and don't exactly need a demo to know if we'll like it or not.Precicely, so I wanted to download the demo to see if I still loved it as much. I don't as it happens, it feels dated to me and isn't as enjoyable as many of the other xbox live arcade titles. Hence the demo being very useful to some people.

I rinsed this game SO long ago I also wanted the demo to see if I could be bothered with it again. I can't.

Frankly after all the question regarding the tech aspects of this game I'm rather suprised anyone has downloaded it WITHOUT trying the demo first, since if you do like it it's a 10 second job to make it the full game.

[NekoFever]

It annoys the **** out of me that it doesn't penalise anyone for disconnecting when they're losing. Surely someone making the game must have played online games enough to know that arseholes will do that and they need to either count it as a loss or at least log how often they drop out. It pretty much rules out playing with anyone except friends who you know will stick with it until the end.

[peeveen]

I think the borders are still my biggest gripe however, most arcade games can manage to display in widescreen so why can't this?

The original game was not widescreen. It just wouldn't be correct if the playing area was made bigger.

[Jakeway]

It annoys the **** out of me that it doesn't penalise anyone for disconnecting when they're losing. Surely someone making the game must have played online games enough to know that arseholes will do that and they need to either count it as a loss or at least log how often they drop out. It pretty much rules out playing with anyone except friends who you know will stick with it until the end.

Drop them some feedback 10 times. Still should have been sorted :(

[Simmy]

Yeah, that's fair enough, but I still feel I need to play the demo to see that they haven't buggered it up the arse whilst converting it. Also I'm suprised this game lags, as it's hardly shifting much. Hell I'd expect dial-up to handle it tbh!

Twas a joke, that is all - just playing on the fact it is street fighter, and all should kneel before the master and buy without trying ! I'll stop with my bad jokes now, pointless around here :zzz:

Not going to get on this until late, as I'm moving house tomorrow and need to start packing. Trust capcom to release it in the one week, where I'm busier than jesus (please read nothing into the jesus comment, tis a JOKE, I don't know jesus personally or his schedule !)

[marcus]

I find the game near unplayable with that useless D pad, can hardly pull off a regular fireball with it, its so uncomfortable and rigid for a game like this.

On the plus side, at least the screen is resizeable, although (as Ive been wanting for years now) Id love to see a higher res SF instead of the blocky graphics we have here but I wouldnt expect that sort of enchancement for a XBL Arcade game and live in hope someone updates those low-res characers eventually.

Not sure if Ill buy this until a decent control method comes out.

[Shakey_Jake33]

Third party needs to make a Saturn pad clone or similar decent 2D controller. I also can't pull off any kind of moves on the pad, can spam the thing on the Saturn >_<

[Concept]

On the plus side, at least the screen is resizeable, although (as Ive been wanting for years now) Id love to see a higher res SF instead of the blocky graphics we have here but I wouldnt expect that sort of enchancement for a XBL Arcade game and live in hope someone updates those low-res characers eventually.


That's an interesting point actually. There's so much that could be done with traditional 2D gaming via HD and barely no one is touching it at present. I suppose it'll take the PS3 a couple of years for the usual Japanese developers to feel up to the task.

I know SNK have been balking about not developing on next-gen HD systems until 2008-9 when there's a sufficent userbase built up for smaller games with smaller audiences to gain some money back from increased development budgets. Designing hi-res fluently animated sprites would obviously be included.

[marcus]

I can almost guarantee that come SF2 on PS3, it will still look like a bloody SNES game. Surely its not THAT difficult to revamp the graphics of a decade (?) old arcade game?

[Kotatsu Neko]

I can almost guarantee that come SF2 on PS3, it will still look like a bloody SNES game. Surely its not THAT difficult to revamp the graphics of a decade (?) old arcade game?Not that difficult, but would it make more people buy the game?

Capcom evidently think not.

[phillai]

I Can't Fecking Grab It U Leeching Gits!!! :(

[MartyG]

Seems to play OK with my pad, but definitely not as well as with MAME and an arcade stick - I beat the AI reasonably easily, but what's the difficultly set on to on the demo by default?

Totally agree that disconnecting prior to defeat online should give a loss.

Also a massive shame that the leaderboards are purely online wins - would it have been so difficult to include a single player leaderboard too? You do have to wonder what Capcom have been doing during all this delay time.

Oh and I still hate fighting Dahlsim - he is the one I still struggle to win against :/ So, it definitely plays as close to the original as the Xbox pad allows.

[dvdmike]

the d-pad on my wired 360 pad works on mame sf2 just fine
edit: how are people on the leaderboard i cant get one game !

[phillai]

Street Fighter is on C5 now? Is this suppose to make up for my misery not being any to download it now! :(

[ExtremePabs]

What a total crock this game is!! poor controls the d pad is shocking!! think i will dragging my snes back out!!

[Jebus]

but what's the difficultly set on to on the demo by default?
3 stars (***)

Anyone with a good memory, can they remember if the CPU used to just whack Hadoken after Hadoken at you as Ryu? The gameplay doesn't seem as much fun as before, it just seems...annoying.

[MartyG]

Yeah it did, and you just counter by shielding then jump-direction kicking. Also, the up jump hard kick totally works against Zangief on AI. It seems to play as identically as I remember all those years ( and questionably 800 points worth ) ago.

[Mr Fujisawa]

Urg, what have they done to the sound? lots of teh sounds have been lowered in pitch, WHY??? urg

also, i cant get an online match. i do quick match, then it finds someone, then times out, every time, wtf is up there

[Crimson Day]

Not in the trial version it don't :(

I think the borders are still my biggest gripe however, most arcade games can manage to display in widescreen so why can't this?
err you can stretch it to widescreen

[Jebus]

Yeah it did, and you just counter by shielding then jump-direction kicking. Also, the up jump hard kick totally works against Zangief on AI. It seems to play as identically as I remember all those years ( and questionably 800 points worth ) ago.Tried that, but Guile did that moon kick thing without even charging... http://ntsc-uk.domino.org/images/smilie/biggrin.gif

[Mr Fujisawa]

ok, after about 30 attempts in custom match (getting, unable to join session) i managed to get a cpuple of games in, both were very laggy, bah

[Psyduck]

I can't get in any online games either - except a few quarter matches, they seemed easier for some reason.

[dvdmike]

going to try the same match on mame and then on 360 one wired pad one wireless

[marcus]

err you can stretch it to widescreen

And it looks totally gash when you do too.

[Mr Fujisawa]

its so laggy, its terrible!!

[Pirotic]

woot, 7 star achivement first time. computer still lets you spam m.bisons fly across the screen against any non-projectile character.

[MartyG]

Getting some fecking rediculous lag on live - we're talking 5 fps stuff ... sorry but this release is a damp squid.

[dcmk]

i dont like this either tbh, tried to..but just not any fun.

[dvdmike]

Its not arcade perfect (using mame as a ref) its too slow, the sound samples are off and the colours are muted also the game is harder for some reason

[Pirotic]

you can tell they had some problems getting it to run full speed, as when you hold down the button post-game which takes the frame-rate cap off the arcade machine, it hardly speeds up at all :D

[krispyk]

Have been getting some serious lag for most of the day now. Am also getting my arse handed to me on a plate by people playing as Honda and using his rapid punch. If anyone knows of a good counter move I am all ears!! :happy:

[dvdmike]

Am also getting my arse handed to me on a plate by people playing as Honda and using his rapid punch. If anyone knows of a good counter move I am all ears!! Same here been ages since i have called someone a cheap honda ****er.
On further inspection this is looking like the capcom classics DE port not bad but not right

[Silvergun X]

I've played one game, absolutely no lag at all.

This seems fine to me.

[dvdmike]

Play more silvergun it can go from perfect no lag at all to the 5fps others are reporting

[Myth]

I've had about 20 matches now (plus about another 10 with El Leone in which I only won once :()and if you go into custom match with anything above yellow then I've been fine for lag.

Asbsolutly loving this, minus it being tricky with the d-pad.

[MartyG]

Are you suppose to be able to spectate quarter matches? If so, why isn't this working for me?

[PeteJ]

Glad I only got the trial - the game is just unplayable with the pad. Plus I couldn't win a round after fifteen minutes so gave up :p

[Silvergun X]

Well, I played about 10 games but in the same session.

4 players, quarter match.

Not a single bit of lag.

Spectating worked fine - Only thing wrong was the pad. Impossible to pull anything off.

Guys, if you want a lag free match, i'll host and invite you guys if someone's up.

[MartyG]

Cool - but can game sessions be organised in the online gaming forum please - this is firstplay. Thanks.

[dvdmike]

Only thing wrong was the pad. Impossible to pull anything off.The wired pad works fine in mame is it the game ?

[Silvergun X]

It's probably just my awkward pad.

[dvdmike]

its harder on mine and others also. is there any way to display my ping ? i can see others just not mine is there an option ?

[Silvergun X]

As far as i'm aware there's no latency meter.

[Hodge]

After 1.30 hours and 57 battles later I`ve finally completed single player http://ntsc-uk.domino.org/images/smilie/smile.gif Either this game is rock solid or I`m crap :lol: Can`t say I`ve had a problem pulling of the special moves with the dpad though.

[Silvergun X]

Must just be my skill then.

Anyway, I see your problem about connection issues.

I'm using custom match to find green ping'd players and it *IMMEDIATELY* just says 'Unable to connect'

Player matches work fine. :???:

[spagmasterswift]

Well it has some major problems (I keep gettin kicked off and when I rejoin I'm once again at the bottom of the queue), but when I have played against peeps from NTSC-UK and a quick game with a mate from work its almost been like the good old days :)

How do you turn off the background with those ****ing lines wizzing past all teh time???

[Silvergun X]

Dude, first working ranked match and I end up playing Marmite NTSC UK!

Good game by the way!

[hoolak]

Anyone find that they can't join majority of low ping (green bar) custom matches, but find it fine joining medium ping (yellow bar) custom matches?

I do.. very strange.

[Silvergun X]

This might sound silly, but try turning off voice chat on filter..

[Yoraths mullet]

Is it just me or do the elephants make more noise than ever before on Dhalsim's stage. They drive me up the wall.

[billy_dimashq]

well i gave my 2 pence on the other thread, but basically i've had absolutely no probs with the dpad (wireless too, haven't tried the wired one yet) and didn't even realise i was playing it on a 360 cos i was too engrossed. i'm not particularly good at it, but i was managing cross-up uppercut-into-dragons every time. seriously until i actually played it i was convinced the dpad would be shite and was ready to hack up a saturn pad but now i think that's not a priority for me.

i haven't tried any winner-stays-on or whatever, did a ranked match against someone and it was super super laggy but still managed to beat him.

it's the best 800 points i've ever spent, and i just hope it stays alive online for at least the next few years

[Myth]

The green bar ones get taken quite quickly so thats probably why you cant connect.

[Silvergun X]

I AM ALREADY FED UP OF PLAYING E HONDA PUNCH SPAMMERS. THAT IS ALL.

Seriously. What's up with that? Just spam the hundred hand, move forward, instant win.

[hoolak]

The green bar ones get taken quite quickly so thats probably why you cant connect.
I thought this, but I tried friggin loads, haha. I hope you're right :)

For the record, I too am finding the dpad fine.

[Myth]

Is there any easy way to counter that because it was doing my head in earlier.

[hoolak]

Hadokens and flying MK followed by a serving of dragon punch should sort them and maybe a jumping Hurricane to get behind that fat sumo ass.

[billy_dimashq]

when all else fails i just do the nooby style wiggling the dpad and mashing the buttons. it even worked against a guy on the trocadero vs machines. screwed him right over cos he wasn't expecting it.

[Soi]

I AM ALREADY FED UP OF PLAYING E HONDA PUNCH SPAMMERS. THAT IS ALL.

Seriously. What's up with that? Just spam the hundred hand, move forward, instant win.

Just jump in or projectile. To see what to do, put the game o hard and play Honda yourself. The AI doesn't stand for hundred hand spamming and you'll see what moves beat it.

[Pezley]

ruined already by e honda hand slap spammers and droppers ( names some prick called eggirs )

Shame

[Crimson Day]

YAY!!!!!!!!! ive finally completed single player yes! how you suppost to do that without losing a round is beyond me, and on lvl 7 star :blink:

[Silvergun X]

Alright, now THIS is more like it.

14 ranked games played, 10 ranked games won.

[dvdmike]

never felt like giving bad feed back b4 but to the bison 1 move wonder and all the honda's i hate you and want you to die

[Silvergun X]

Pfft.

I wasn't even are you could combo at all with this game until now.

Learned a lovely little flash kick combo with Guile that's winning me matches left right and center. :)

[dvdmike]

why didnt they allow match selecting showing who people are picking b4 you fight

[Bleeders]

I'm actually bored of this already tbh. I dunno, I feel indifferent about it, coming back from the likes of 3rd Strike, this is actually quite pedestrian and don't even get me started on the ****ing Honda bitches. :pft:

[Yoraths mullet]

Some kid tried the old last second switch to Honda after selecting someone else. So I did the same thing and slapped his sorry ass silly.

[nonny]

To whoever was asking about spectating in quarter matches...

If you enter the match while a fight is in progress it wont let you spectate until after that match completes, then it will take you from the basic 4 player view screen into the spectator screen before the next match starts.

I personally havent managed to get into any ranked or player matches all evening. It either says Timed Out or in custom match is instantly flicks to being Unable To Join... quarter matches though have been ok.

The spectating in quarter matches were good fun, its nearly as much fun watching than it is playing... but they should of added a tournament mode or something.

[Zero9X]

just create a ranked match. people will join instantly. its how i do it, although to be fair i can never perform a dragon punch when i want to like normally do. the dpad is bloody terrible, anyone have any 360 pad recommendations?

[Yoraths mullet]

In the sf2 thread from the Headlines sections someone posted a pad they used. I am too lazy to link to it though.

[Jusatsushi]

Just had some fan-bleeding-tastic Ryu Vs Ken matches online, right down to the wire every time!

Best nostalgia purchase ever... it's like being 15 all over again!

[Tetsuo]

Been playing this tonight for the first time.

Ok, so obviously the pad is awful to play with, that's expected, so I've been playing more with charge-style characters instead and it's been quite fun. Single-crediting this will be too hard for me on a 360 pad, it's just not designed for 2D. Arcade and SFC still the platform of choice for the hardcore 1 player, then.

Less forgiving is the lag between button presses and the on-screen action. The FPS were pretty solid and only dropped 1 or 2 times for the hour I was playing. However, this doesn't really feel like Turbo as we know - it's slightly slower and the sprites were too bright on a HD screen (anyone else notice this?).

Still, the people who I played with (when not understandably moaning about blisters and failed quarter-circles) were good chaps and we had some funny banter - it almost felt like 1993 again, but instead of depressed/sticky buttons and broken sticks, we've got the Xbox360 pad to contend with ;) That and loading times, bloody loading times, internet connections and ping rates. *sigh*.

SFII Turbo SFC, anyone? :)

[hoolak]

I did it on 7 stars... some people are now preparing me a nice coffin and a lovely reeth in the shape of Zangief for me :(

[Zero9X]

In the sf2 thread from the Headlines sections someone posted a pad they used. I am too lazy to link to it though.

was eyeing it up earlier. dont worry about it, just bought it. could do with another 360 pad anyway.

[hoolak]

This (http://www.hori.jp/us/products/xbox360/horipad_ex_tb/index.html) pad?

Yeah I got this and it works well, however.. I can use the default 360 pad with no probs too, so...

[Zero9X]

weird that. vixen is the same, i dont know maybe its because im so use to the old types of d-pad of the psx or saturn. with them i can pull off anymore i want instantaneously in a battle, but with this 360 pad it always ends up just being a regular punch or kick.

[hoolak]

weird that. vixen is the same, i dont know maybe its because im so use to the old types of d-pad of the psx or saturn. with them i can pull off anymore i want instantaneously in a battle, but with this 360 pad it always ends up just being a regular punch or kick.It is indeed weird, as me and my mate play Anniversary Edition loads on PS2 also, but when he tried this on the 360 pad today, he had a hard time pulling off a dragon punch at all, yet I was fine.

[H-Man]

You're not alone, Zero9X, i'm finding the 360 d-pad to be bloody awful.

I can pull off specials all day when not under much pressure, but when it comes to those instant dragon punches and spinning piledrivers 50% of the time my guy either does nothing or punches thin air. The d-pad doesn't lend itself well to fast movement it seems.

[Bleeders]

Tell me, was the game really always this hard? I've seen little difference between 1 and 7 stars so far, the AI loves to spam the **** out of projectile characters.

I mean, Ryu is a beast on 1 star. :wtf:

[J0e Musashi]

I'm not having too much fun with this. 1-up is cool, but I'm too used to newer fighters so I'm nowhere near as good as I was back in t'day. Online sucks for me. I think I've only played in one almost lag free game. All the E-Honda idiots are annoying too, and I've started reporting each one for bad play. I shall stick at it though. Proper old skool.

[Pezley]

for those who dont like the dpad ( which im not finding a problem atall :D ) here is a mod that is supposedto work pretty well

http://www.ufighterx.com/guides/videogame/360dpadfix/360dpadfix.htm

[jimmbob]

Tell me, was the game really always this hard? I've seen little difference between 1 and 7 stars so far, the AI loves to spam the **** out of projectile characters.

I mean, Ryu is a beast on 1 star. :wtf:

Yes I'm having trouble seeing the difference between Ryu on one star and Ryu on 7. Also good to see Blanka is still a cheating Wanka.

[Bleeders]

Glad it's not just me, dang I like a challenge, but when you trying to get the near bastard it's Fireball > Fireball > Fireball > Kick/Dragon Punch and when you do get close enough in, he manages to get a throw in before you've landed the sweep. :blink:

I know I'm crap, but shit...

[nonny]

for those who dont like the dpad ( which im not finding a problem atall :D ) here is a mod that is supposedto work pretty well

http://www.ufighterx.com/guides/videogame/360dpadfix/360dpadfix.htm

Yep this mod is good but go one further and swap in the Dpad from the original controller S, it is far more accurate without even sanding away the recess.

[Soi]

All the E-Honda idiots are annoying too, and I've started reporting each one for bad play. I shall stick at it though. Proper old skool.

You are leaving people bad feedback just for playing E Honda?! That is crazy. It isn't as if doing hundred hand slap is cheeting.

And there is nothing wrong with playing to win in ranked matches. If someone can beat you just by doing one move, why should they change there play style just because you can't adapt?

[capcom_suicide]

Downloaded the demo. Game is as it was back in the day. (I can't be sure, is this a port of the SNES game? Visuals seem worse than I remember)

Played a few matches.

Conclusion.

I can't be arsed to donate the time it took last time around, in order to play a 1990's 2D fighter. Too much new stuff to enjoy! (And blow up in 3CPU/megaGPU goodness)

I'll buy it for "Party Games" when the lads come round, but I won't spend much more time than that. It all just seems so dated....

Still, the game was fun before, so I'm sure it will be fun again. Just not my cup of tea anymore.

[Yoshimax]

Anybody notice that the high score is registered as "NIN" ?

I'm sure the arcade version used to be "CAP" then "COM" and so on - Is it the SNES version we've got here ????

My broadband was fubar'd last night - very annoying but got some games online with Gerry & Spags and it was a top laugh !!!

[supersmithy]

For me its like back in the olden days, apart from I don't have to wait for some rich kid to put in 50p and say "CAN I PLAY MATE?".

And I still get battered the same as I did back in those days :D

[C']

Anybody notice that the high score is registered as "NIN" ?

I'm sure the arcade version used to be "CAP" then "COM" and so on - Is it the SNES version we've got here ????

My broadband was fubar'd last night - very annoying but got some games online with Gerry & Spags and it was a top laugh !!!

I'm pretty sure NIN is the correct top high score for the arcade version.

I think NIN is the tag for Akira Nishitani who is one of the lead producers/designers for the Street Fighter games.

[J0e Musashi]

You are leaving people bad feedback just for playing E Honda?! That is crazy. It isn't as if doing hundred hand slap is cheeting.

And there is nothing wrong with playing to win in ranked matches. If someone can beat you just by doing one move, why should they change there play style just because you can't adapt?

If you did that in 1993 you'd have been slung out the chip shop.
I'm leaving them bad feedback for just continually using the hundred hand slap. It's not sporting in the least. What is the point in playing if you're just gonna do that? I can adapt though, but it's not how the game should be played.

[spagmasterswift]

Fair enough in Ranked Matches I guess, but its still fookin cheep!!!

[ItsThere]

I just got owned so bad by Dhalsim i had to turn it off. Was I really that bad when I was younger???

[djtickle]

Loving this game. No lag at all out of 8 matches! Only won 3/8 thou mwhahaha.

Kept getting a whippin off Chun Li! I couldnt connect to many matches but seemd to be able to create my own no problem. Love it!

[jimmbob]

I just got owned so bad by Dhalsim i had to turn it off. Was I really that bad when I was younger???

He's a bastard, "Yoga" (Disappear) "Yoga" (Appear) "Yoga Flame" (Owned)

:dry:

[ItsThere]

He's a bastard, "Yoga" (Disappear) "Yoga" (Appear) "Yoga Flame" (Owned)

:dry:

Not only that but (Disappear) Double head but (Stars for me) Yoga Flame... about 3 times in a row, I swear that bendy freak is a cheatin behatch.

[jimmbob]

The stars around the head seem to last ages if I get them, however the computer just shakes it off instantly to continue the relentless pwnage. I proper beat up Blanka yesterday, he was sick, the lot. He was dizzy for, I swear a second, he then back flipped-kicked, and cannonball rolled staright into me for the win. More practice I suppose, or shall I blame it on the d-pad?

[Soi]

If you did that in 1993 you'd have been slung out the chip shop.
I'm leaving them bad feedback for just continually using the hundred hand slap. It's not sporting in the least. What is the point in playing if you're just gonna do that? I can adapt though, but it's not how the game should be played.

I'm not talking about games against mates -then I agree a player who just spams the smae move over and over is a dull player. I'm talking about ranked matches, where surely the whole point of playing is to win. Whether a move is "sporting" or not, is irrelevant.

And using the hundred hand slap all the time is actually "how the game should be played", in the sense that it is a perfectly legal move that was designed by the makers to have those properties. Annoying as it may be to lose from it, the game was made that way, and exploiting that isn't the player's fault. SF2 is full of things like that.

Have a read of this:Playing to Win: Part 1 (http://www.sirlin.net/archive/art-of-war-part-1-sheathed-sword/). It is a great read, and a real insight into gaming at competition level (which, of course, I am a million miles form).

I agree that the hundred hand slap appears to be "too good" at first, and that many players will be getting easy wins right now by spamming it over an over. But that isn't the point. It is counterable (and you yourself know how to counter it), so I don't see it as a problem in ranked games at all.

For these reasons, I still think that leaving bad feedback for playing the game how the game's designers intended is a bit mean.

[peeveen]

For these reasons, I still think that leaving bad feedback for playing the game how the game's designers intended is a bit mean.

As much as I despise cheap-win addicts, I have to agree.
I leave bad feedback for quitters and cheaters, but this isn't cheating.

[Pezley]

its not the fact they are winning or even seen as cheating...... its just so boring playing some little twerp who just found the light punch button.

[dvdmike]

God my thumb hurts this morning lol, wish it was arcade perfect tho then i can survive the pain as i did with doa4

[ItsThere]

:) Just smashed a spamming honda. That felt SOOOOO good. Clever play etc etc but I am still not that good I'm afraid... Keep ranking for a while before entering a tourney here. Don't want to have to but am only any good with ken :D

[Silvergun X]

In ranked matches, I ALWAYS wait for the opponent to choose first - I can double-perfect honda spammers with Ryu, but my normal character is always Guile.

[Bleeders]

Downloaded the demo. Game is as it was back in the day. (I can't be sure, is this a port of the SNES game? Visuals seem worse than I remember)

Played a few matches.

Conclusion.

I can't be arsed to donate the time it took last time around, in order to play a 1990's 2D fighter. Too much new stuff to enjoy! (And blow up in 3CPU/megaGPU goodness)

I'll buy it for "Party Games" when the lads come round, but I won't spend much more time than that. It all just seems so dated....

Still, the game was fun before, so I'm sure it will be fun again. Just not my cup of tea anymore.

I agree, a lot of what you say I'm finding myself. I must've played for about an hour yesterday and ended up sticking Senko no Ronde back on!

[Silvergun X]

I have no doubt in my mind i'll stop playing this when Senko arrives.

[hoolak]

True. I hammered SF last night and had fun along with frustrations of the majority of my matches being a bit laggy (probably due to playing U.S player later a night). Even with it lagging a bit my timing goes out the window. Fights with SilvergunX were sweet tho.

It'll be a game you revisit occasionally for fun... of course I'm gonna play the majority of my 360 games over this, but this was worth my 6 or 7 quid.

[DavidFallows]

1 - Shitty lag. I had a few slightly laggy games with Jassi and then when we tried hooking up with Phil it was a case of computer says no. Even at the best of times there was a 1/4 second lag, blatant on the character select screen.

2 - Washed out, upscaled sprites. Fair enough, we were never going to see the original retro 320x240 resolution but there is something really wrong with these sprites... they look smudged up to **** and I can confirm the original never looked as bad as this. We played arcade SFII'CE a couple of weeks ago and it was fine.

3 - The 360 pad. I've had no problems with the 360 pad and can play just as well as when on a stick... I just have problems doing dragon punches facing left. Got a DoA stick on the way but that's getting sold without even leaving the box.

4 - Ranked matches. If I'm lucky enough to get one working the lag is so bloody bad it can't take my move inputs. I went 3/3 wins and then when I lost my 4th match through extreme lag (I would have kicked his ass all over normally) I felt like smashing my flat up.


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I'm not very happy.

Microsoft.
Capcom.
10mb internet.
13yr old game.
9months dev.....

And we're left with this?


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I can't be arsed to donate the time it took last time around, in order to play a 1990's 2D fighter. Too much new stuff to enjoy! (And blow up in 3CPU/megaGPU goodness)

Mate, when I come to selling all my gear I'm going to be absolutely gutted when it comes to splitting up my Neo collection. Playing this shit has made me realise why I was such an SNK fanboy back in the 90's..... Anyone who reckons SFII (prior to Super) compares to FFS and SS2 deserves a twatting.

[hoolak]

It looks much better than my PS2 Anniversary Edition does.

You're right though. Seems Capcom should of held this back until the netplay was spot on, seems the majority of games are laggy. For the die-hard fan... if it is a tad slower than what he/she are used to in Arcade/console, then it is extremely frustrating.

[Myth]

I am still yet to have a laggy game, well other than one game in that quater mode but never a ranked game and I've had quite a few now.

[DavidFallows]

It looks much better than my PS2 Anniversary Edition does.

That's because that is also a washed out, upscaled piece of shit.

You can't beat the original PCB running in 320x240. Upscaling is the work of the devil.

[hoolak]

That's because that is also a washed out, upscaled piece of shit.

You can't beat the original PCB running in 320x240. Upscaling is the work of the devil.
To be honest, I ain't complaining about the game in that department, as I find it doenst affect my play. I ain't that picky.

[dvdmike]

it looks to me that its the capcom classics port

[DavidFallows]

To be honest, I ain't complaining about the game in that department, as I find it doenst affect my play. I ain't that picky.

Neither am I mate. I'm just using that issue to explain to the others on here why it looks so bad.

My hate is with the lag. I can live with everything else.


LOL - People complaining arcade mode is too hard? WTF? even on 7-stars this is much easier than any SF before it. You want to try playing SSFIIX on Dreamcast set to 8-stars. It'll make you cry.

[Super Monkey Balls]

It looks much better than my PS2 Anniversary Edition does.

Should've gone to specsavers. That's Hyper SFII AE, the last version running on CPS2, this is the last CPS incarnation.

I'm not impressed either. It looks crap in HD, there are no extras, no polish, they've done nothing to the low bit rate CPS audio which sounds nasty in dolby digital, when the lag is there its awful, its like a constant 50% framerate and it screws timing completely, the DOA stick is awful at QC's, everyone creates games to get on the left side...

[DavidFallows]

Charge moves are impossible with lag. Usually I can quickly adapt to compensate for the lag.. and then it progressively gets worse until it freezes up totally.

Pissocks.

Playing the ROMs over dial-up was much better than this 4 years ago. Those were free and didn't take 9 months to come out either... And of course you had the choice to play up to SFZ3.

[El Leone]

I haven't been against a spamming Honda, but incase I do, what should I do?

[hoolak]

Sounds like you got it really bad mate. I haven't had it that bad to be honest. Me and SilvergunX had some great heated matches last night. I wish there was a way to filter the search so you can only play people in your local region or something.

[Goemon]

So people have been having lag free games?
I played last night and every game was an appalling laggy mess.

As for the difficulty, console versions were easier than the arcade (from which this is based). I always remember the arcade of of Turbo being rock!

Spamming Honda's are easily beatable but with lag it becomes very tough.

[dvdmike]

Finished turbo on mame last night with ryu havent been able to do it on 360 yet

[Psyduck]

I think "lag-free" depends on your definition really. I'd say I've seen little lag, but I think others would complain it's too much. You're always going to get some delay, you just gotta get used to it...
From what I can tell, the ping indicators are wrong, I can only seem to connect to red, and the odd yellow games, so I'm guessing they're reversed.

[hoolak]

From what I can tell, the ping indicators are wrong, I can only seem to connect to red, and the odd yellow games, so I'm guessing they're reversed.
I was thinking this also. Someone said you may not be albe to connect to green coz someone else has already snapped that slot up :) Who knows.

[Lebowski]

with regards to the 100 hand slap whats the problem here chun lee's healstomp makes light work of it as dose a fireball or any sort of projectile attack i cant see the problem? am i missing something here

[dvdmike]

I think its more of the one move wonders out there. Its the controllers with turbo switches that worry me

[spagmasterswift]

When somebody opens with a flying head but and then goes straight into the hundred hand slap its very, very annoying :(

[hoolak]

Some people are getting crushed in the corner due to Honda's ability to slide across the wet floor whilst slapping most frantically. It's the same as it was since Champ Edition I think. You just gotta learn to deal and change your game plan accordingly. It is blantent tho if you're expecting your opponent to fight using a combination of various moves rather than just slapping punch button for the duration of two rounds :) It's just not cricket.

I like to cross up with Zangief or jumping hurricane to behind him and punch him right up thy jacksy! :D

[DavidFallows]

Sounds like you got it really bad mate. I haven't had it that bad to be honest. Me and SilvergunX had some great heated matches last night. I wish there was a way to filter the search so you can only play people in your local region or something.

Phil Lai is around 30miles away. The amount of lag between us is of 1993 dial-up standards. It's totally unplayable. :(

If you think spamming Honda on Turbo is bad his headbutt on SSFIIX is almost bloody invincible.

[Kotatsu Neko]

Phil Lai is around 30miles away. The amount of lag between us is of 1993 dial-up standards. It's totally unplayable. :(
That doesn't mean much though. You'd have to run a trace route to see just where the connection is actually running.

[Yoraths mullet]

I'm loving this game, just had a dozen or so matches, with no lag and only 3 Honda spammers. I beat one with Chun LI and should have won an other so not going to cry about it. It still has that one more go factor for me and is ace for a quick blast. And when it all gets too much for me, I have game of UNO!

[phillai]

E Honda is definitely not as powerful in this version as in SSF2X...
And DC version of SSF2X will indeed make you all cry but trying to complete this on the hardest setting without losing a round and beating Akuma will make you have no eye brows like wise...

[yosai]

LOL - People complaining arcade mode is too hard? WTF? even on 7-stars this is much easier than any SF before it. You want to try playing SSFIIX on Dreamcast set to 8-stars. It'll make you cry.Too true. Play the CPS2 SSF2T board to find the true defination hard.

[peeveen]

I could easily 1-credit the 7-star SNES version of SF2 (dunno about HF). Still to get stuck into this version. I had a quick play last night. Kept coming unstuck against Blanka, whom I remember to be a bit of a wildcard back in the day. Can't get the all-important DragonPunch out under pressure, need to work on that.

Played 5 online matches, no lag, and only one cheap-win-addict, who continually used Bison's slide move. If I hadn't been rushed (wife was nipping my ear to watch BigBrother) I could've beat him, but he got a marginal 2-1 .

All in all, a good addition to XBLA I reckon, although the "timeout" thing was quite annoying. What gives?

[spinpug666]

I'm having probs connecting to matches, i spent a half hour to get a match in quick match but kept getting time out msg in the game after the 5 sec count down. I've good signal strength on my wireless, so i'm stumped to what the prob is :(

[RLench]

It happens when someone quits just before the match starts. It isn't anything to do with you or your connection

[Yoshimax]

Not always - was happening to us last night when the 3 of us were still there !! Pain in the tits tbh.

[dvdmike]

anyone used a madcatz,hori, or joytech pad the dpads look better to me

[hoolak]

I have the Hori Turbo Ex pad and it works well for getting my spinning pile drivers out.

[angelx]

Is there a UK supplier for that DOA 4 joystick? wow this game really is a blast from the past and pretty tough! oh dear we have it too easy now although I did win an online match :)

[anephric]

Forbidden Planet stock the Hori DOA4 stick... for £59.99.

[RLench]

Not always - was happening to us last night when the 3 of us were still there !! Pain in the tits tbh.

Really? Whenever it happened to me, it was because I was trying to join a game. When I hosted and let people connect to me, it was fine. I might have just been lucky then

I'm very disappointed with the online mode. I can't believe that there aren't any filters to search for different skill levels :pft:

[ItsThere]

There is a new breed of spammer. The spamming low slide bison whore. Following by flaming torp and lox slide. Lots of fun to pummel them. Met the same guy 3 times in a row doing it so used Ken, Guile and then Sagat to squash them. Nice.

[Soi]

I'm very disappointed with the online mode. I can't believe that there aren't any filters to search for different skill levels :pft:

Ranked mode does that by pitting you against people of the same skill. Though I'd guess right now everyone has a rather low rank and so it hasn't sorted itself out yet.

[nonny]

I have the Hori Turbo Ex pad and it works well for getting my spinning pile drivers out.

Is there a wireless version? I play on a projector and sit way back from the 360 so no cord is going to be long enough.

[Rushy]

Ranked mode does that by pitting you against people of the same skill. Though I'd guess right now everyone has a rather low rank and so it hasn't sorted itself out yet.

Exactly at first I was getting pitched against anybody and everybody, and often getting nailed. But after about 10 games I had a steady ranking and was from there on in pitched against players of a very similar skill level.

And I can't believe just how lag free it is, still haven't had a agem with a signla second of lag.

[peeveen]

Hmm. I had ten minutes to spare last night, while the wife was getting ready to go out. "I know, I'll have a couple of fights on SF2" ...

Timeout, timeout, timeout, timeout, timeout, timeout, timeout, timeout, timeout, timeout, timeout, timeout, timeout, timeout, timeout, timeout, timeout, timeout, timeout, timeout, timeout ... then gave up.

Ten minutes of fannying around in the lobby without one single game. A ****ing joke, Mr Capcom, get it sorted.

[C']

Not taken it online yet but played single player for a short while and I quite like it so far. Not had any trouble whatsoever with the 360 controller’s d-pad and pulling of qc and dp motions on both sides of screen with ease.

Sadly I’ve not played as the majority of the World Warriors in quite some time so I rarely stray beyond Ryu. Hit my first redizzy last night which was a blast from the past :)

[Shakey_Jake33]

Me and the 360 pad, or more specifically the D-Pad, have been having a right ol' argument this morning with this game. I've given up basically.

Interesting how it effects some more than others.

[Bleeders]

I'm finding pulling off Dragon Punches easier on the d-pad than I am on DOA4 stick!

[Crimson Day]

am i the only one whos using the stick rather than d-pad tried both and found the stick alot easier

[billy_dimashq]

i played this guy last night who'd already played about 350 games (won 240) and i managed to kick his ass which was nice.

gonna look into ythis hori thing you lot are talking about. hope it's good. would still rather do my saturn pad but i can't be arsed to solder all those wires

[DavidFallows]

Top games with Phil, Yoshi, Jack + Hoolak last night.

Had me in cold sweats. :D

The lag was 5x less apparent than the night before.

[hoolak]

Yeah was good. Your back was stuck to the sofa via sweat :)

[Yoshimax]

Aye great games last night - It's amazing how it almost always goes to the wire (apart from when Dave & Phil were booting my arse all over the place).

[ItsThere]

I tried to join in with you guys in a quarter match but as soon as I did everyone left! Had to go back to ranked matches as no one to play against....

[Yoshimax]

B;air = ItsThere !!!

Now we know - we were wondering last night but aye it did go kinda weird at one point - Was showing names on the screen who weren't even in the room ! mental !

[Indy @ S.E.]

anyone online at the moment who fancies a quick game or two?

[DavidFallows]

Soz Blair. LOL. We didn't have a clue who you were - I did recognise the gamertag though. :lol:

[ItsThere]

:) cool, will have to get my headset out of the cupboard to explain myself next time!! Gonna be on later this evening if anyone is around for a few games, prob about 8pm ish.

[Jusatsushi]

I was playing in a quarter match with some peeps from another forum last night and too many invites were sent. Strangest bloody thing was we ended up with six in the lobby, all able to talk and getting their turns to play. Only four names were on the screen, but the other two could still chat and everything worked fine for a good 40-50 mins before it crashed.

Tried it again since and had no joy... strange!

[Yoshimax]

That's almost exactly what happened to us !

[Pookmunki]

tried joining in with hoolak and phillai last night, room messed up just as i was about to fight each time, fingers crossed some other time we'll get to play

i want to test myself againts phillai's demon cheeky kick Dhalsim :D

[marcus]

You guys can actually play this using that awful D-Pad?

In my eyes, you are fookin legends :)

[billy_dimashq]

really? aww thanks man!

[peeveen]

so really hammered this tonight, won something like 20 of 30 games. Two of which were against honda slappers, it felt great to tear them up. Still pissed off by the constant timeout errors, but on the opposite side of the coin, i only got minor lag in a couple of games, and had a generally fun time of it.

[Lok]

Me thinx the old netcode has not been optimized, sigh :(

[krispyk]

I eventually finished the single player game last night on zero difficulty after 30 odd matches. I cant believe how much they ramped up the difficulty...

Didnt do too bad on online yesterday and won about 20 or so matches. Am getting incredibly ****ed off though with people terminating the game if they lose.

[hoolak]

I managed to do it on 7 stars... 54 battles :(

[billy_dimashq]

played about 15 games against jassi last night. great fun.

overall i'm on 21/26 which i'm happy about.

so far i've had 2 quitters, although they seem to do it after i've won which is ok (just means i have to wait 15 secs!). i decided to text one guy who did it and he replied saying 'nothing personal, the guys at the top are cheating so i figured i would, too'

i've been playing it with the usb wireless jiminy, gonna try it directly wired to see if it helps with the lag. although having said that the jassi matches were fine (although i was hosting so dunno if that kinda puts things in your favour or not).

what i love about it is it's old skool sf which, while i'm not particularly good at, i know like the back of my hand (distances, animations, etc), so i can hold my own against most of the really good guys, which was definitely not the case with third strike or even hyper sf2

[billy_dimashq]

tried joining in with hoolak and phillai last night, room messed up just as i was about to fight each time, fingers crossed some other time we'll get to play

i want to test myself againts phillai's demon cheeky kick Dhalsim :D

where the hell is the guy? i think he's been avoiding me.

PHILLLLLLLLAAAAAIIIIIII!!!!!!

[Nisa]

Glad I'm not the only one to get a raping from Mr Phillai.

Spotted the DOA stick in my nearest import store yesterday for about 45 quid, I think it's time to invest in one because I can't play fighters with the 360 pad at all. Thing is I don't have DOA anymore so I'm really only buying it for Street Fighter, so I'll have spent about 50 quid just to play this game, it's like the SNES days all over again.

[Yoraths mullet]

I would buy it, 45 quid is a good price.

[billy_dimashq]

yeah but i wouldn't feel too down about getting bummed by the lai-ster considering he's got that DOA4 stick...

[phillai]

I am not! Been sleeping all day as bird took me out and we had a mad one and the same thing is happening tonight so instead of playing this tonight, I'm going out and having another night out on the piss... :p

where the hell is the guy? i think he's been avoiding me.

[Mr Fujisawa]

ok
desapite the fact this is ****ing terrible and shoddy, and the shit i did earlier could have done a better job, im having a great laugh in quarter matches.

some cock thought he could just spam honda slaps to win, blanka schooled him.

lag its still a huge problem, but its still a laugh

[billy_dimashq]

well that's no good! you'll be too drunk and that'll be your excuse!

just got my 30 wins medal today, followed shortly by the 50 online matches. currently trying my hardest to do the lame 12 warriors one (i'm assuming you just need to be in a match, not necessarily win, yeah?)

[sithlordx]

Good games Phil tho I got the feeling you were toying with me a bit!

[phillai]

Good games Phil tho I got the feeling you were toying with me a bit!

lol, I'm not THAT good... Honest!

[Crimson Day]

well that's no good! you'll be too drunk and that'll be your excuse!

just got my 30 wins medal today, followed shortly by the 50 online matches. currently trying my hardest to do the lame 12 warriors one (i'm assuming you just need to be in a match, not necessarily win, yeah?)
yea just quickly fight a match using each char in arcade lose each fight and change char

[billy_dimashq]

lol, I'm not THAT good... Honest!

he's right!

and now that his stick's bust, it's a level playing field...

[dvdmike]

I love hearing yank kiddies saying "bullshit" when Ryu lays the dragon punch on their chins :)

[Crimson Day]

yeah but my chun le can kick any ryu or kens ass:happy:

[nonny]

Guys if you dont pick up a DOA stick a second option is to do what I did over the weekend, which is transplant the Dpad from the original Xbox Controller S into one of your 360 pads.

I did also sanded the Dpad recess a bit as suggested in an earlier link and whilst it isnt the best Dpad in the world it is significantly improved over the 360s original Dpad. It will do me for now as I need a wireless pad so that Hori one just wont cut it.

[Simmy]

Loving this, tis bringing back so many good memories. Only playing SP atm, as I've lost my live after moving house, but tis great fun, relearning all the combo's of old, and how to beat each of the characters. Can clear the game to bison with losing a match each time on level three, but I'm yet to cane that guy without continuing, BASTARD ! Trying to get the completion without losing a match/round atm, as well as the perfect match achievement, hopefully get all three in the next couple of days. Level 7 is going to be fun to finish it on, can't believe how down hill my game has gone, used to clear it without losing a round everytime on SNES level 7 :zzz:

Now I'm used to it I'm not finding the D-Pad to bad. P1 side dragon punches and fireballs are a sinch, just struggling with the P2 side moves atm. My D-Pad is set slightly right on the pad though, so I'm not sure if that is making the left side of the pad unresponsive ??

Had a couple of games over live before losing my connection. Both seemed very slow and laggy, and I can't see me playing it online at all if it's like that. You take the timing out of SFII and it loses all of the fun for me. Nothing more satisfying than a last second dragon punch, but that's impossible with lag. Hopefully it was just a bad couple of games, and it will prove to be allot better when I get my new connection set up ! Is the game, when lag free, the same speed on live as the SP game ?

[Yoshimax]

It can be but you need those golden connections ! Had a few laggy games, had a few not-so-laggy games, had a few that seemed lag free - But they were all fun :) Funny how it almost always seems to go to the wire and that slowdown on the killer blow - I can't believe it hasn't been used in other fighters - did Capcom patent it or something ?

[billy_dimashq]

i got the achievement for clocking it on level 7, but can't do the one without losing a continue.

my eagle eyes noticed it doesn't mention what difficulty you need to be at to get that one (or the one for not losing a round) so i just put it to level 1 which, funnily, seems a LOT more difficult than 7 :wtf:

on level 7 i can at least get to the bosses without losing a continue, and usually it's either vega or bison who beat me, but on level 1 i was losing to people like honda and zangief!

it could be cos i'd been online for ages, and my brain had become used to the timing needed when playing over the net with the lag and whatnot, but i was a bit annoyed.

compared to snes/md sf2t which i can clock on lvl 8 with my eyes shut, this is proving to be a bit tricky. i clock the rom on level 7 just fine but that's most likely cos of my saturn pad...

[wicky]

I must admit, when i were a young un I could complete this easily on the most difficult setting, yet i seem to be struggling with this even at 1 star. took way too many continues

[Bada Bing!]

Should've gone to specsavers. That's Hyper SFII AE, the last version running on CPS2, this is the last CPS incarnation.

I'm not impressed either. It looks crap in HD, there are no extras, no polish, they've done nothing to the low bit rate CPS audio which sounds nasty in dolby digital, when the lag is there its awful, its like a constant 50% framerate and it screws timing completely, the DOA stick is awful at QC's, everyone creates games to get on the left side...
I have to agree, with SFII's inherently letterbox screen format, I was hoping for a fresh representation, especially as it supposedly had HD support.

It's just a warmed over PS2 port by all accounts, it looks miserable with its shitty vertical borders etc. Very poor.

[billy_dimashq]

yeah but it's like six quid or whatever.

it's even cheaper than the crazy frog games!

[Simmy]

Looks as good as I remember, plays as well as I remember (atleast in arcade mode) don't get what people were expecting other than what we've got. Agreed it looks dire when you stretch the picture, so just don't do that.

Really can't complain for £7, just the arcade mode is going to give me endless enjoyment.

[cpt zod]

so far i love it..... the good old days off gamming at its best

[nonny]

Looks as good as I remember, plays as well as I remember (atleast in arcade mode) don't get what people were expecting other than what we've got. Agreed it looks dire when you stretch the picture, so just don't do that.

Really can't complain for £7, just the arcade mode is going to give me endless enjoyment.

I completely agree. It looks and plays close to how I remember it and it costs less than the crap load of coins I threw into the arcade version as a kid. That'll do me. I would like them to fix the network code issues up in future but I've played countless quarter match games will some local lads and its pretty smooth.

[billy_dimashq]

there's only so much they can do with the net code tbh. if you think about it, all these 3D games have the benefit of movement prediction and all that, whereas I doubt you could do stuff like that with SF

[Bada Bing!]

The frame rate still looks rubbish though, compared to it running on MAME, or even my SFC Jr. There are noticable skipped frames even on Arcade mode. It's ok for a couple of quid, but given the time it's supposedly been in development, they could at least have given a proper 16x9 playing field, a smooth frame rate and non-laggy multiplayer.

Why do multiplayer issues always seem to come as a surprise to 360 developers (GRAW, and COD2 for example)? Do they not have any kind of simulated XBL environment upon which to test before release?

[Simmy]

Surely if they implemented true 16:9 though, the amount of room left and right of the fighters would of increased quite dramatically changing the play of the game !

The only other option is to stretch, which they've put in, and looks shite and would of looked shite if coded that way.

[J0e Musashi]

The frame rate still looks rubbish though, compared to it running on MAME, or even my SFC Jr. There are noticable skipped frames even on Arcade mode. It's ok for a couple of quid, but given the time it's supposedly been in development, they could at least have given a proper 16x9 playing field, a smooth frame rate and non-laggy multiplayer.

Why do multiplayer issues always seem to come as a surprise to 360 developers (GRAW, and COD2 for example)? Do they not have any kind of simulated XBL environment upon which to test before release?

Can you tell me where these noticable skipped frames are? I've had it runnning next to the PCB and I can't seem to see any difference. I have no idea why people keep banging on about 16:9 either. SF2 is designed to be played on a 4:3 screen. 16:9 wouldn't work at all. The only problem I have with it is the lag issues.

[Bada Bing!]

Can you tell me where these noticable skipped frames are? I've had it runnning next to the PCB and I can't seem to see any difference. I have no idea why people keep banging on about 16:9 either. SF2 is designed to be played on a 4:3 screen. 16:9 wouldn't work at all. The only problem I have with it is the lag issues.
To be fair I went back after seeing it running on MAME and couldn't spot them, but remember seeing oddities on Ryu's animation in particular. Perhaps it was just with the increase in speed over the SFC version I play regularly.

The lag is really pissing me off though. I also keep having loads of games time out on me before they begin, I probably have to try 4 games before 1 will begin!

I have the screen stretched up full, but along only as much as say a US TV show was broadcast on BBC2. That is to say with borders, but not as horrific as the ones you get if you flick your TV from 16:9 to 4:3. I reckon extending the screen that extra amount from there to make it 16x9 could have been great. The game always suited being stretched to that amount anyway on the old hantarex monitors.

[billy_dimashq]

i find turbo looks a bit dodgy in terms of frame rate compared with the old CE and original 2 anyway, maybe the way they implemented the speedup originally? i'm speaking in terms of playing it on various emus here, not the actual pcb's.

it's kinda like how i find ssf2t is a bit jerky at speeds 2 and 3, whereas ssf2 is much smoother, but much slower also.

oh and about the lag, the reason it's taken this long is precisely cos of their tightening up of the net code. my mate has been playing it on partnernet for a while now, and he says the difference in lag between the early ones and the proper released one is immense.

i'm not in the least bit surprised about the lag. i blame our damn uploads and all this kazaa and whatnot that people are using thanks to shared connections, for helping ruin things.

[J0e Musashi]

TBH, I haven't messed with the screen at all. My TV is 50" so SF2 is easy on the eye anyway. I don't think I'd want it any bigger. Come to think of it I think I'm gonna have a go right now!

[billy_dimashq]

i just resized it skillfully by pushing both sticks at the same time, thus extending it horizontally and vertically by the same amount. dunno if it stretches in relation to the 4:3 ratio or just at the same speed (in which case it's probably not at the proper ratio :p).

when i can be bothered i'll get the ruler and calculator out and do it properly. it's lame, i know, but when i know something's a bit dodgy it just sits there poking at me until i sort it out :(